Gun law update: Gun-ban list proposed

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Bradys plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity, I’m working on getting that news out asap after these ban lists, probably be ready in the next few days. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. See what 250 of your peers thought during our recent Bill of Rights Day event at the Wrigley Mansion in Phoenix: http://www.gunlaws.com/BOR-Day-2008-Report.htm

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1;

AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.” Note that Obama’s pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.”

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

That presumption can be challenged only by suing the federal government over each firearm it decides to ban, in a court it runs with a judge it pays. This virtually dismisses the principles of the Second Amendment.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

If these near-total bans aren’t enough, the most dangerous part may be the phrase “pistol grip” because: “The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.” In other words, any semi-auto long gun with a grip (that’s ALL semi-auto long guns) would be banned under the existing proposal. It’s not clear what they hope to achieve by deceptively banning guns with grips instead of just calling to ban the guns -- even an idjit can tell it’s the same thing.

I didn’t cover here all the magazine bans, transfer bans, dealer record-keeping and centralized reporting, and a host of nuisance details -- there will be time enough for that when the new lists are released soon: “As soon as President-elect Obama is inaugurated and the 111th Congress is sworn in,” according to Ms. Brady. Congress is set to be sworn in on Jan. 6, Inauguration Day is Jan. 20.

No one expects the new proposal to be less abusive than the current one supported by the party of the Democrats. Remember -- these bans were proposed when the congressional anti-rights crowd had no chance of success. Now they are ready to run wild, or according to Sarah herself, “I have never been so confident.” The “news” media has failed to report on any of this, preferring instead to blare that the incoming president supports the Second Amendment and commonsense (sic) laws.

To see the whole bill, go to https://thomas.loc.gov and search for HR 1022, (switch to the 110th Congress if the 111th has begun).

The excellent Firearms Coalition started by the late Neal Knox and now run by his family members makes these important points about the upcoming Judiciary hearings for AG nominee Holder:

“The Democrat members of the Judiciary Committee are all sworn enemies to the Second Amendment and are unlikely to be swayed at all by any firearms related arguments, but might hesitate to confirm based on Holder’s participation in the pardons of 16 Puerto Rican terrorists and billionaire financier and arms merchant Marc Rich [and perhaps the Elian Gonzalez abduction by federal agents Holder authorized]. Any letters to Democrats should focus on those issues.

“On the Republican side, Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the committee has never been a friend to gun rights, but he owes his reelection to NRA support and has expressed concern over the pardon issues. Among the other Republicans, most are relatively reliable votes, but only Coburn has routinely taken a leadership role on Second Amendment matters. All of them need to be pressed hard to do everything they can to block the appointment.

“For more information about Eric Holder and why his appointment must be fought tooth and nail, go to our web site at https://www.FirearmsCoalition.org.”

Comments

[D. Schuhmann]

If this should become law, expect to see MANY innocent Americans become felons and move to federal prison. I notice nothing in this about grandfathering. I also notice that M1 Garand is not included. And WHY oh Why did they pick on the M1 Carbine first and formost? Hope and Pray that there are enough intelligent congresspersons to stop this. With Heller in the immediate past it's a shame that we should have to fight this nonsense now.

[Way]

this is a good way to start a war with the American people. Not smart

[Thomas J. Reader]

I will never allow anyone to take my weapons!!!!

[ben]

am i the only one who wrote down every gun on that list and opened a website to look at all of them, with plans to buy at least 2 or 3. I already own an ar 15, looks like it is time to pickup a ak-47, streetsweeper, and maybe one more. I have always wanted an m-1 garrand, but they cost a fortune

[unknown]

Sounds like a prelude to CIVIL WAR

[Some guy]

You can pry my AK-47 off my cold dead fingers!

[Alan G. Rockwell]

If this law is passed there WILL be a WAR between the PEOPLE and the GOVERNMENT! There are people that will be PROSOCUTED and people will be KILLED as a result of all of this, too many people will FIGHT this for their RIGHTS things like this have happened in the past, such as the CIVIL WAR because they belived they were stripped of their rights which in that case was slavery. I'm not into guns either. But the FACTS show that guns prevent more crime than they start. I can only pray this law will NOT pass.

[JEFF TURNER]

Enough is enough! The machine we call government in this country has gone too far for to long! Slowly they are disarming us under the ruse of street violence. This country is not the country are fore fathers fought to establish! Corporate bankers and the military defense complex have turned this country into a giant bloated rotting cash machine and us into nothing more then modern day slaves! WHAT WILL IT TAKE PEOPLE? WILL WE WAIT TIL THEY COME TO COLLECT US UP TO SEND OFF TO WORK CAMPS? WAKE UP MASSES! THE TIME IS NOW TO SCRUB OUR COUNTRY CLEAN OF THESE BLOOD SUCKING ELITISTS AND START FROM SCRATCH! WE CANT DO IT THOUGH DISARMED! TIME IS RUNNING OUT! LOOK AT THE WRITING ON THE WALL! THEY'LL GET MY GUNS WHEN MY AMMO'S GONE AND MY HEART HAS STOPPED! I'M A TRUE PATRIOT NOT A CRIMINAL AS THEY'D DESCRIBE ME! LAND OF THE FREE NOT OF THE CONTROLLED!

[Eddie]

The criminal element must be estatic! Knowing that every law abiding person & there home will be weaponless. They can bust into your home in broad daylight knowing full well, you have no firearm to defend yourself or loved ones with. I wonder, if we start using baseball bats to defend ourselves with, in place of guns, will they then ban baseball bats as well?

Eddie

[Me.]

Ready for war here. Come and try to fucking take them. Ill be unloading a magazine into their face with one hand and a copy of the Bill of Rights in the other.